Trenton ReynoldsThis is Room in the Trees, a podcast about living a creative life. Room in the Trees is hosted by Sabrina Ward-Harrison and me, Trent Reynolds.
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Sabrina Ward Harrisonhow are you trend reynolds
Trenton ReynoldsI am doing, I'm doing well in this moment today. Feeling really good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsIt's a, so we're, this is the sec. Tomorrow will be the final day of the second week of a, of my five week raw materials course. And it has been such a wonderful learning experience and wonderful group and I just really, really enjoyed it. What's one of the things that you've really liked about it? The thing that I like the most about it is the back and forth. So I like being able to customize what I'm going to be talking about to the questions and needs of what's going on with the class. So my Wednesday video, I do... I respond to people that submit questions or request for more clarification on what I taught on Monday, or I just look at what people are posting. And that gives me an idea of what the needs of the group are. I like having that kind of that kind of feedback mechanism. Yeah, yeah. And I just love seeing the exchange between students and seeing people like responding to each other's work being posted and. I just love the conversation part, the interaction part. It's just you don't really have that capability in a traditional class setting.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonRight, right. And you're working with your ideal people.
Yeah, yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsAnd it's been interesting to be able to figure out how to negotiate that the being able to alter what I'm teaching to meet the needs of the group, but also try to maintain a sense of structure so it doesn't just kind of go all over the place. But I don't know, I just, there's, you never know what it's gonna be like until you do something, right? And it's just, the reality of it is turning out to be just interesting in ways that I hadn't anticipated. So I'm liking it. The one thing I'm kind of curious to hear your response on this. The Facebook private group, as much as I love being able to have that interaction, it's kind of a... confusing interface. Have you found this to be true? Right. Yeah. The way they choose to put up at the top and how they, like sometimes if you make a comment, it will put things out of order. And sometimes it will show you sometimes it. So I've, so there've been like a couple of times when I've gone two or three days without realizing that somebody had even uploaded a picture because it was hidden under these old posts that had been moved to the top for some reason.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonThat's true. That'd be worth like looking up on YouTube or some, there must be some updated like instructions on how to really effectively have a, I find that all the time. That's a, that's something when I'm dealing in, in other Facebook groups. like having things pinned to the top of the page,
which you can do.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonAnd you can also ask people to tag you, not put your name in their comment. So you'll get notified again, like they mentioned you in their comment. If you want to be sure that you don't miss it.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsYeah, I'll have to figure all that stuff out. I look forward to the day, and I think it's got to be coming, when there is a platform that is much more visually intuitive on how to navigate and create groups of people or groupings of content or structure things in a much more... I don't know, clear and practical way. Yeah, this this idea of just like a feed of all these threads.
Just
Trenton ReynoldsI don't know, I think there's something lacking in that. You're missing a lot of potential for people learning from each other. in that format. So life is good. How are you feeling?
Sabrina Ward HarrisonI am feeling good right now, too. I think I've had just been up in my brain, the old brain, trying to navigate, figure, figure, figure stuff out, and then just sort of stopping and really doing some painting for an hour before recording today, which was great. That's awesome. And scraping. I'm working on wood and just scraping and scraping into it. Yeah. we switched Sean helped me switch my studio rooms from my like switching out the rugs and switching out to bring my studio into my living room and my living room into the other room so I can look out at the lake and work and it just feels it was one of those are you sure you want to tackle this with me because this involves a lot of elements and thinking about space in such a great way. So he's just, and he's a very, he's very patient. So it was surprisingly really effective. I was really, because we both have different ideas that we're like, oh yeah, okay. And then we combine our ideas and it makes it great. We get through it together really nicely. We've had some very sweet couple of weeks of just, and being over here a lot more and just, just, nice, really nice time.
Yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonBecause I've just been really in my zone. I'm creating an experience, an online experience. It's going to be like a month-long online experience that's going to open up for... registration next week, I'm hoping.
Trenton ReynoldsTell me about that. I saw some, I saw, I think Instagram something or other, but I don't think I've seen any or read anything in depth about it. What is it all about?
Sabrina Ward HarrisonIt's really, again, it's like that sense of creating what we most want to find. So for me, it's like what we're needing right now to get back in our bodies, get physicality of moving and creating and getting out of our heads and out of that state of worry and really building out more new material and through writing and writing. creating this, I don't want to give too much away about the actual deliverables that are going to come, that people are going to create from the experience, but they're just going to come away with a body of new material and stuff that has been made just from like a let's let it, let it out, let it fly, you know, in a way I think about it as like a prequel to liberate if someone was thinking like oh I would love to make a book but I don't really know where I begin or what I'd be writing about or like I'm not sure about the mixed media process that Sabrina like uses and incorporates into her her visual memoirs like this is kind of that base fundamentals experience so people want to know like how how I get the writing, I get, I get the, you know, really deep, um, getting back into journaling and just all that stuff, all that stuff. So it's kind of staying loose and getting free, staying loose and getting free. So, um, and I feel like in a way it's almost, it's going to be therapeutic. Just, just, it's really, um, it's like a nourishing experience, um, It's not a...
Trenton ReynoldsWell, yeah, you said create what you most need to find. It sounds like this is something that, you know, you've obviously spent a lot of time doing this type of thing in the past, but maybe in recent years it hasn't been as much of your daily routine. Do you kind of feel like you're wanting to get back to more of that? Like returning to the actual creating of... or self-reflection or kind of digging deeper into what's going on in yourself?
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah, I think it's a full kind of full circling back. It's all these cycles in life of reflecting back. I've been revisiting old journals and being like, wow, you know, just there's journals and journals and journals full of writing and just kind of revisiting those and thinking about writing from some of the things from some of the writing I've read, re-read that written years ago, and thinking this is interesting. Like what have I picked up, responded to some of the writing I did in 2000. And like, I feel like in 2000, was the beginning of things changing, like the pace just started picking up in life in a way that's different. Right. And then again, I think around 2008, it did again. I just-- I love giving people this experience. I love seeing people come together through this process. I did-- done two live free writing 30 minute sessions online the past two Fridays in a row. And it's been so cool. Like people coming in from all parts of the world to be live and writing and just, and then sharing afterwards. And it's just like, it's so healing and so it's so affirming. Like we're just, we're all in this and we can support each other and it just can open things and it can heal things and it can release things. And,
Trenton ReynoldsWith these free writing sessions, how do people share what they've done? Is there a place they post it to?
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah, it's a True Living Experience private Facebook group. So it's like if they go to probably on my Instagram and my LinkedIn link tree links, there's probably a link to like 30-minute journaling session. that should take you through to that. So the first one we did on Zoom, and so people just shared afterwards, which was really cool and kind of spontaneous. And then the second one I did live in the Facebook group, and then I kind of created a spontaneous Zoom meeting that people after the session could then join in and share.
So...
Trenton ReynoldsYou had a lot of people. Was that difficult to navigate?
Sabrina Ward HarrisonIt was crazy. It was jumping in like 700 and something people had signed up for it. And a couple hundred were live on the calls. And so I was so nervous at first, but as soon as people start sharing, you just feel like, "Oh, we all get it. We all know the feeling." we're all holding holding a lot inside and right to get back like I kind of try to engage all the senses in my the prompts I choose and the flow of the prompts so they kind of the sequencing is really important so it takes people you know from their hair in 8th grade to you know what they remember holding in their hands to um you know, places they explored barefoot, you know, just certain teachers they remember. So just the flow of that's really important. And I think that's where the grounding comes so that from that process, the work that they make from that place as we move into that phase just comes from a deeper, has a deeper resonance and deeper touch. tone of it's not a surface like okay I'll make this because I like this color right now and I like this picture it's like let's really resonate with what this is evoked from.
Trenton ReynoldsI've been thinking a lot just since the since the start of COVID and how just not being able to go places. Yeah. Like the places that are so much a part of the life that we've created here is, I don't know, I'm realizing that so much of how I understand what's going on in what happens at home depends on me being able to go to these other points of reference, you know, to be able to go to the studio and to be able to go to the church, to be able to go to the park, to be able to go to museums or favorite restaurants. How we move throughout the world, we need these points of reference to just process what's happening in the world. Exactly. Exactly. It's like we don't know how to feel, or like I'm speaking as myself. And I think similarly, it's kind of like that with people. Like if we can't go and engage with people in different spaces, you know, just like being able to go to different spaces, being able to go and spaces are connected with people, So like being able to go to the grocery store and the kind of communication and interaction you have with people there versus at the park versus at the beach versus at church versus at home versus with family. You know, all of these interactions that we have in normal times. inform and help us process what we're feeling and understanding and how we're growing and how we're and if we're denied that and we don't have that that kind of point cloud that that those little dots that help us locate ourselves it just is again it's like the white room and i think i feel like I don't know, I've felt that a lot lately, is that white room, the sense that I'm just kind of sitting in emptiness, not really knowing how to think or feel about anything. You know, it's like, I don't really know just how to process, you know, all these mechanisms that usually help me just... just could deal with living, you know, all these points of reference are not there anymore.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonThat's really, you've captured it really well. And it's unprecedented. We don't know, we don't have that, like, okay, so this is what we do in this situation. And so we're sort of building as we go, like, okay, this is sort of like the central nervous system isn't able to be functioning correctly. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsSo I think these interactions that we're able to have online help to alleviate some of that.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsAnd just the new kinds of having that variety, having new kinds of ways to connect with people also brings with it new points of reference. And so it's kind of interesting to me to see how we're trying to shift... You know, the role that all these other places and people and ways of moving around in the real world, we're trying to map that onto this virtual model of interaction that happens all the time. I don't know. I think it's because we need that. I don't know. I think we need contrast. We need all those different points of reference to really figure out what we're looking at or what we're feeling.
Yeah.
Trenton Reynoldsyeah it's an interesting time but man is it hard it just feels hard and you guys really have to
Sabrina Ward Harrisonstay you're staying like it's so you can't go to your studio i can go to my studio now and
Trenton Reynoldsand that's definitely a huge thing and we actually just found out today um i just read something that the city has allowed parks to reopen. Oh, thank God. I know. I know. That is such a big deal. But, I mean, we've had the beach back for several weeks now. So we go to the beach every week, sometimes a couple times a week. a week. But parks before this all went down were such a day. We'd go there every day. So it's been a huge loss to not be able to go there.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonSo parks are back on the table, which is
Trenton Reynoldsfantastic. But yeah, no, so the kids go to school at home. We have a couple of places that we can go. They ride scooters in the garage. We can't really do too much outside. We can't really take them to the store very easily, you know, because they need to have masks on and having four kids and trying to keep them with masks on. is kind of a challenge. Museums aren't open. So yeah, it's been mostly just a lot of at home. And you try to fill up the hours with productive stuff, but there's only so much you can do in a two bedroom apartment.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonWhat's the school thing been like?
Trenton ReynoldsWell, kind of like teaching online. It's had its things that are even better, strengths and weaknesses, just like anything else that... Liv's loving it. She's doing really well with the social aspect. Eden likes the technology part, but she gets bored really easily. They all have Chromebooks and they're starting to get used to just, you know, interacting with their teachers and other students that way. But, you know, it's a lot better this year than it was last year. So. oh boy oh boy indeed so tell me something happy well actually you just told me something happy tell me the name of this full color life
Sabrina Ward Harrisonfull color life and it's just oh it's really it's like birthing something it's just it is so I want to make it so magical for people and Yeah. And I think, I just think it's, I want to get started right away, but I think I'm just, it's not going to start till middle of November, just like let the election happen. And then people can be looking forward to like, this is, comes afterwards and just, be in good hands. Be in Sabrina care for a month.
Trenton ReynoldsI think that's wise.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah. That's wise. What else has been going on? We went on a great motorcycle ride last weekend and we went up to this place, this beautiful Ice Age Trail. There's this Ice Age Trail where these huge bluffs that come out of the landscape here in Wisconsin that are just... What do you mean by Ice Age trail? Well, I guess the Ice Age... The facts about... We should look up the Ice Age in Wisconsin created during the Ice Age. There was a huge... rock formulation shifts that happen through the state here. I'm not explaining that very well. Let me look it up.
Trenton ReynoldsSo like a lot of glacier movement?
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah, so it's the Ice Age National Scenic Trail.
Trenton ReynoldsIce Age National Scenic Trail. I'm going to look this up and hope
Sabrina Ward Harrisondiscovering an unexpected wilderness on Wisconsin's Ice Age Trail so National Geographic discovering kept home by the pandemic one writer explores a glacial history in her own backyard it's a strange thing
Trenton Reynoldswell that one writer was you, you did it the Ice Age Trail this writer explored it we're oh my gosh this is beautiful
Sabrina Ward Harrisonactually added some of my images to Google so you might even be seeing my pictures.
Trenton ReynoldsI want to see your pictures. These are really great. So you took the motorcycle up. A lot of this looks like Ice Age Trail is like a hiking trail.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah. We hiked up and then there's just these beautiful cliffs looking over the countryside.
Trenton ReynoldsAre the colors changing?
Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonJust having some nice... And then, of course, we got there thinking... So we went on our non-wedding wedding day. So we were going to be married on September 20th. Right. And so we went on that day up to where we were going to get married and just sort of had a quiet moment like, well, we're not dancing with my dad here today. That's for sure. So we then biked out to this place. It's called... we were like the only ones on the trail and I was kind of like, I'm like, Sean, I'm kind of afraid of bears or something. So we're hiking at the, we get to the top and this beautiful, beautiful lookout. And we're sitting in this quiet moment kind of reflecting. And, and I said, we should take a, like try to take a picture and just capturing this moment of us up here on this day. And, So I went and we've done, I've never even tried to set up like a self timer picture for us before. And I went to try to lean up and suddenly a man with white hair appears out of nowhere at that exact moment. And he just kind of bears witness to this. Like we shared with him, it was just, it was really felt very spiritual. Like he disappeared. His name was Kent and he photographed us and he just was this warm, wonderful man. And he kind of held this, you know, was the, We told him we were supposed to get married this day, and we weren't going because of COVID. And then he went off, and we passed him one more time. He was the only person we saw on the trail. So when we went back this time, we're like, oh, we're going to have this beautiful moment again. We came, and it was just packed with cars. So it was still beautiful. But I'm glad we kind of had this sacred time the first time we went.
Trenton ReynoldsOh, I love that story.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonIt's beautiful. Yeah.
you
Sabrina Ward HarrisonI feel like there's just something funny that's happened. Funny, funny, funny.
Trenton ReynoldsIt is so unfunny right now. The world is so... I miss good, deep laughs. It just feels like I cannot completely get myself to the place where I'm just
No.
Trenton ReynoldsLike silly, like silliness is not accessible at the moment.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonThat's what my dad was saying to me today about, he's like, as an artist, he's like, he was watching a documentary about the painter, the artist, Andrew Wythe, like the artist I think was what he was. Andrew White, uh-huh. Yeah, last night. I think that's who it was about. I love his work. And he said he was raised by such a dad with such a sense of humor. He was a really fun, silly dad. And he's lots of play and lots of imagination stuff. imagination stuff, imaginary play and silly hats and things. And so he was talking about the importance of play. And that's what he said. It's so important that you really give that to your students. It's just that's where, you know, grounding and healing happens. It's like you've got to activate that sense of play. And I think it will calm our nervous system and it will... kind of re-center us and whatever that realignment of like okay so just because we're so and futurizing and that worry just is is wears on our whole system right
Trenton Reynoldsand i think it does it does affect creativity i think your ability to have new ideas and make connections relies on your ability to let go of needing to hold things together you know and I think yeah when you're surrounded by uncertainty and things are you know you're you're on alert you just you need to hold really tightly to your same old way of doing things because you're so focused on preservation. So I think there's something to that. There's a book that I read when I was, I think it was back in college or maybe even high school, about Andrew Wyeth and his father, N.C. Wyeth. Oh, really? He was an illustrator, a very well-known illustrator. If you looked up N.C. Wyeth, you'd recognize a lot of the paintings there. But the thing that I had took away from that book that I've shared with most classes I've taught over the years is that Andrew Wyeth remembered his father always making sure there was more than enough art materials just around constantly. Oh. And the reason that that's significant is because he never had this idea that the art materials were something that he had to protect or be precious about. It was just like it was a natural thing to pick it up and start doing instead of like, you know, trying to preserve the paint and be careful with it and, you know. I don't know, I think there's something really important about that because so much I think the blocks that come up, you know, one of the big reasons that we get those blocks is because we're being precious. We're being precious about the materials, we're being precious about our ideas, or precious about who we are and what we can be, you know, like, So, I don't know. Laura actually lived right next to the Wyeth Museum in Delaware. Wow. So, he's one of my heroes.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah, I would love if you, that book I'd love to share with my dad, too.
Trenton ReynoldsIt's called Three Generations of Wyeth. I'll have to send you a...
Sabrina Ward HarrisonWhat was I going to say? Oh, it makes me think about you as a dad, too, just how that's something I can tell that you guys really instill.
Trenton ReynoldsWe try, man. That's something I've been thinking about the past 24 hours because I took, after weeks not taking the kids to the studio, I took all three of the older ones. to the studio just yesterday. My studio mates, some of them are older and just understandably a little bit more nervous about COVID, so I just haven't taken the kids there. But we were there yesterday, and my heart... You know, you have a vision of kind of what the kind of father you want to be and what you want to give your kids that, you know, wasn't part of your youth that you wish, you know. Anyway, a long way of saying is that I want to be, I want to be able to like give my kids just freedom, you know, to play and to be. But there's definitely this warring other side where like, don't. Don't, but not that, you know, don't squeeze too much pain out, you know, that's.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah, right. That was, that was all. Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsYou know, or, or, you know, don't, don't get the pain on your clothes or like. Yeah, yeah. So there's definitely that competing. On the one hand, I want them to be free and not feel restrained. But on the other hand, it's like, oh, my order. Yeah. My safe space is being destroyed. Yeah. Anyway.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonWhat's your side note about just paint and squeezing the paint bottles? We talked about Nova color and you said you pour, I'm having a hard time with the lids, like unscrewing the lids or my hands can't seem to, they get paint in them and they get really hard to open. What were the bottles that you said you pour them into and then you use those?
Trenton ReynoldsOh, the little squirt bottles? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those, they sell them in the store. So I imagine you could also get them online. They're just, I bet you could actually get just clear food like ketchup bottles. Oh, that's a good idea.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsIn fact, those might be even easier because the hole where you screw off the top is a bit bigger than the ones that they sell at their store. Yeah.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsBut yeah, I love that about them is they're thin enough to be able to squirt out.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsYeah. And there's another, I told, yeah, we did, with Decisive Action, I showed you those little felt tip marker screw-on tips that you can use with golden fluid acrylics. Oh, yeah. Those were so cool. I just found, I ran across them again when I was at Blick yesterday. It's a product made by Golden, and I just posted that to the class's Facebook group. I'll have to find that link for you. But essentially, it's a tip that's kind of like it's got this soft felt tip that basically turns the whole bottle of paint into a big marker. Yeah. And so you can just have as much, as long of a line as you can manage with as much paint as in the bottle. Yeah, it's awesome. Especially for big surfaces. It just lets you scribble to your heart's delight.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonAnd for glazing, you've been using the airbrush liquid, right? Yeah.
Paint?
Trenton ReynoldsYeah, for glazing with acrylic.
Yeah.
Trenton ReynoldsOr making it thinner and more fluid. That's what we covered this week, actually, was the water-based media.
And...
Trenton ReynoldsI bet your dad was, you know, speaking of, I know from talking to him and from talking to you about him, memories of him, but he was just such a fantastic, you know, person who inspires creativity and that kind of just play. I feel like I need to do a better job of providing that for my kids.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonOh, he really, really was and is. It's a funny, this is a funny side story that kind of relates to that. Well, entirely relates to it actually right now is that yesterday I was really, really busy and I was getting the kind of outline for the course and I was trying to get it formatted so I could put it on my website, put it on the sales page. And so I sent him a draft of it to saying, you know, could you, I mean, any tips referring to just formatting it? Like, you know. how it was formatted, the outline. And I got back this thing at the end of the day yesterday, and it was so sweet because he thought I meant tips for all the different things I was teaching. So it's so great. It's all the key principles he really taught me. I mean... So like, so trust the unfolding, sharing boldly and authentically is the first like module. And so the first thing under that is getting out of the crisis of stuck in your head and getting back into the creating for your heart and soul. So he responded, your core values are not what you make art about. They are light by which you create.
I could cry.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonTrust the deep truth in your heart will illuminate the path forward. In other words, let it happen without thinking about it. The critical eye is the enemy of spontaneous creativity. and he just like each of these things that I'm teaching about he'd he'd written it was just so so and I was laughing and it's just I mean it's just so meaningful so I thought he should definitely be a guest teacher on for one of the one of the sessions for sure But yeah, he, you know, and yeah, his role, I think he really, really wanted. And I think, you know, to be, be gentle with yourself, Trent, also, because it's just, it's a different era. There's a lot more. The 80s were a little easier, I think, in some ways, as a parent. All the technology, you know, you just had outdoor active playtime, not, there's a lot of things you're wrestling with.
Trenton ReynoldsYeah, it is a different time for sure. Oh, I love that though. In school, many of the mentors in art school that I respected so much would say something to the effect of like, yes, learn all the rules. But when you go into the studio, leave that behind. You're like, yeah. Don't be thinking and letting those rules dictate what actions you take. I think the way he just said basically the same thing was so wonderful. Yeah. I've always struggled with that idea or how to communicate that effectively. Yeah.
That's fantastic.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonJust come to the Harrisons. Just come to the Harrisons.
Trenton ReynoldsYep. Yep.
Yes, indeed.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonOne other thing I wanted to mention just as a thing that I'm kind of excited about this time around with teaching is that I'm going to do sessions at different times of the day so that people in Australia can also be live because there's a lot of people that are in the UK or Australia, so I'm doing the time so that people can be here. They can be like 9 a.m. in Sydney time and then 7 p.m. UK.
Trenton ReynoldsSo you'll do multiple sessions of the same.
Uh-huh.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonYeah. Yeah, live.
Trenton ReynoldsThat's a lot more work for you, right?
Yeah.
Sabrina Ward HarrisonBut I feel kind of like I think I'm going to talk about the same concept, but just a couple different ways. I mean, maybe they'll be a bit different, but I think there's – it just – I just feel really generous right now as far as by what I want. You just want to be with people and help people. Right.
Trenton ReynoldsIt makes such a big difference when people can be live. I got that response when people were registering, wanting to know when the time was because they wanted to make sure to be live. There was somebody from the other side of the world. I'm forgetting now where, but she couldn't join because of time. concerns. So yeah, it's an interesting part of the first round. It's exciting. The first round. It is. Yeah, it is. And, uh, and it's just kind of teaching me what else is
Sabrina Ward Harrisonpossible. And I can't wait to check out your course when I have some little bit of downtime, it seems very, very satisfying and fun to, to soak up. Yeah. It's been a good one.
Trenton Reynoldsgood time. And yeah, when you do, definitely check it out. I'd be curious to hear any feedback or what you think about it. Yeah. Well, my friend, the time has come. All right. Thank you very much. So good to talk to you again. Yeah. So good to talk to you too. I'm really excited for all the
Sabrina Ward Harrisonstuff you're working on. Thank you. I'm really proud of you for launching. I'm really proud of what's to come. That was the first. Once you've done it once... everything is going to be easier after this.
Trenton ReynoldsI think so. It feels like I've jumped off the cliff, so.
Yep, yep.
Trenton ReynoldsNow I enjoy it, and it's not so hard to jump off the next step.
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